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Random teams during Olympics?
Yes, i would like to have random teams.
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No, i would rather choose teams myself.
30% (16 votes)
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I would like to know people their opinion about this question. 

In my opinion it might be a little unfair to choose teams yourself, because all the high rank people will be in the same team and than the winner of the olympics can allready be decided very soon because of this. Ofcourse i understand if people don't like it to be with random people (i don't like it as well most of the time), but maybe it would make the olympics more challenging!! So let me know! 

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What about only FFA games...there were clan olympics with just teams...so in my opinion we can play only FFA games witout dramas... There are  some players who will get points just mostly in team games , and in FFA maybe some points,and get in last tour, unfairly ...anyway , with random teams or with teams what we choose its unfair ..just my opinion.. :)

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Random teams? You want to put ex. oldghz in a team with only 1200s and think that this will be fair? How idiotic is this idea. The poor guy has no chance. Let the players choose their own teams. It is not our fault that some people have less contacts around on the game to be able to build up a team for the olympics. We can anyways choose our own mates in normal tournament, so why should you implement something completely absurd like this now? The majority is based on lower-skilled players, so it looks like they will win this votingpoll anyways. 

There can rather be two ways to signup. One normal way where you signup with your mates, and one other way where you will be stocked into a random team with other players that signs up with the same ''signupthingy''. This could be a nice idea imo.

 

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In my opinion you can't randomize the teams. Every team tournament so far hasn't been randomized and it was good like that. If you randomize the teams, you can be very unlucky or extremely lucky with your team.

And I think it will be impossible with this community to play together with everyone. There is so much drama and hate here, will be hard if 2 'haters' are in the same team. 

Just my humble opinion :3

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Random teams would increase the level of winning "accidentally". It would depend much on how lucky you get during the process of randomization. Now it depends much on who your friends are, that's also true, but at least your social adaptation gets rewarded and not your luck.

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Heyhey guys, this is why i ask these kind of questions, to get everybody's input! 

So don't attack me immediately, thank you! :) 

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marloesvr on 2 November, 2015 - 15:23
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well old always play with lows vs pros so :p

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Both has pros and cons.
Pjush, sam and haru - I think random teams arent as bad idea as you see it, of course there is the "luck" that matters but still, I think its not that big chance that all pros would be in one team.. maybe it would also be more competitive, like that it isnt always a few teams with all skilled players blabla
But ofc choosing your own team is the thing that was and is always in every team tournament.. so maaybe it should stay like that

@Kizza - only FFA isnt a bad idea tho, not because there were Clan olympics but because it is maybe a fair way to get title of curve olympics winner.. FFA tournaments are hard and 6 different FFA tours would clearly show who deserves this title

Just my opinion!

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It would be nice to have a random teams tournament where team mates change every round. So new randomizing would be done between all rounds. The tournament should start with a couple of rounds of FFA so players who won't show up wouldn't be a problem.

For me it would be fine to be done in olympics but maybe that tournament could just be it's own tournament and not in olympics.

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I have no pro friends, pls do random i dont want to play with mopseli or tomus :(

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I would say Randoms cause thats Olympics and not normal Tournament, make it a bit special! My opinion is, if you want to make a pro team with 'Random people' maybe there should be some selection matches before Olympics, where only winners are able to join one team for Olympics.

 

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theRealMadridcf wrote:

It would be nice to have a random teams tournament where team mates change every round. So new randomizing would be done between all rounds. The tournament should start with a couple of rounds of FFA so players who won't show up wouldn't be a problem.

For me it would be fine to be done in olympics but maybe that tournament could just be it's own tournament and not in olympics.

This was also my problem thought, that player who don't show up could ruin the game for better players. The suggestion of theRealMadridcf is a very nice idea to solve this problem imo. Also we shouldn't plan which places of the FFA's play together as team later(avoids the problem, that some pro players would plan before which place they need to play with their friends). This would maybe take 10 minutes more time to enter the names to the schedule, but I don't think that this would be a big problem.

Con: We have the "Allround Tournament" at December which is almost the same.

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NOWODNY2 on 2 November, 2015 - 21:05

 

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Do first 2-3 rounds as ffa and then take those people for team games... that way everyone will be satisfied

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Random teams is a good idea, but maybe after randomisation check the fairness a bit or make a system that the random teams also have a bit balanced rank. 

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Teaa wrote:

Both has pros and cons. Pjush, sam and haru - I think random teams arent as bad idea as you see it, of course there is the "luck" that matters but still, I think its not that big chance that all pros would be in one team.. maybe it would also be more competitive, like that it isnt always a few teams with all skilled players blabla But ofc choosing your own team is the thing that was and is always in every team tournament.. so maaybe it should stay like that @Kizza - only FFA isnt a bad idea tho, not because there were Clan olympics but because it is maybe a fair way to get title of curve olympics winner.. FFA tournaments are hard and 6 different FFA tours would clearly show who deserves this title Just my opinion!

The bigger chance is that you get teamed up with players which aren't really able to play team. I played thousand of games with totally random teams and I know very well how it is to play these kind of games. In the worst case you will have to play versus two, three or four decent team players and in your team you are the only one who knows how to create and defend space. You will be out in the first round and it won't even be your fault. This system of totally randomness just depends too much on who gets luckily or unluckily teamed up with whom. 

The better idea is imo to divide all participants in skill level groups (G1 = >2200, G2 = >2000, G3 = >1800, G4 = > 700 and then randomize teams. Every team can only be made of players from different skill level groups. It would create bigger competition and we would have at least halfway random and fair teams.

4vs4 G1, G2, G3 and G4

3vs3 G1, G2 or G3, and G4

2vs2 G1 and G4, G2 and G3

Teams without G1 can be made without players from G4.

The problem is that you have to classify players (some won't agree with the evaluation) and that you can't classify second accounts if they are unknown. But no system is flawless.

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Can't we play just FFA games in olympics?

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I agree with Haru.'s idea. And about what he said about being in unfair teams. 

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How many players are in the G1 group based on skills?  - Only 3: Gilnash, Oldghz and Realmadrid. The rest of players that have rank > 2200 are those players who have played with the same group of people of G2 against people of the group G3 and G4 in other words the top 50. Basically you cannot classify the people into the groups and then randomize them because there are not enough people in G1.

For other hand, everytime and every tournament the players are the same in semi and in finals: all from the the G1 and mostly from G2 and one or two from G3 that of course have droped their rank for being inactive or for other reasons. So basically when they randomize the teams you will have players that are not new or bad at all. But of course you will find those players that will lose on purpose in order to let their friends win. For example, Gilnash and Pjush in opposite teams: probably one of them will not play serious just to let the other win and if you add that in their team they have someone who they dislike more reasons to lose. - Pretty sure they won't do that because they are always in the eyes of everyone but it will happen with 2nd accounts or players that basically like to troll and belong to G2.

Still it is a good idea to randomize to give the opportunity of those of G2 win a tournament that are not between the 2 always champion teams, so the best idea to avoid leavers, trolls or those who are not good enought to fight with people of G1 and G2, make 3 or 4 FFA games - depends of how many people are. At the end when it is time to make team games all the players (or most of them) are from G2 and few from G3.