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Enhanced toggle stats

We build more tools for you to see how your pc is doing. Right click on the chat and select toggle stats to see our new analysis tool.

Ingame you can now also see if you are lagging, or our servers. If you press right mouse button and toggle stats, it will show you a graph of your performance. What it shows:

  • in yellow: your FPS (higher is better)
  • in green: ping with your actual room
  • in red: ping with a reference server in another data center
  • grey lines show 50ms difference

So 3 scenarios:

  • Your internet is bad: Both green and red follow each other in a high spike!
  • Your PC is bad: There is a drop from the yellow points to almost the bottom.
  • Our server is bad: Only the green points go up significantly, the red points stay on the same level.

Have fun experimenting and analyzing the results :)

Read more about lag in this topic: http://curvefever.com/content/faq-lag

 

EDIT: Closed, please discuss your lag issues in this topic: http://curvefever.com/content/faq-lag

 

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Very nice Geert!

Will check it out, asap

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Here, i took 3 screens, can you explain them pls. In short terms, what does each one says.

 

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Here, i took 3 screens, can you explain them pls. In short terms, what does each one says.

This is a normal situation. Apparantly you are closer to the live servers than the reference server. In general you have a ping of around 50 ms. There is no performance issues

 

Here we see a drop in the FPS, probably because of a big animation on the screen (like changing from 1 place to another)

Here the shit hits the fan! Unfortunately, your resolution is a little bit too small to see it well (save it as png next time ;)) I see a big drop in framerates. The big green line means the ping to the room was higher than 500ms. The ping to the reference server was about 250 ms. It coincides with a drop in the framerate to about 20fps. However, I also see that later on the red and green dots move together, indicating that the general stability of the internet connection is pretty bad. It is from this screen (and on the low resultion and not png save) hard to say what causes this. Also juyst before the green spike, I can't find the red lines, maybe they are hidden because of the resolution?


 

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This was my little experiment

First and second pictures are normal and radio /sound on.

Third picture is when added external source to music, it was actually soundcloud.

 

But in next picture, i saw something bizare.

This white circles shows no spikes when i dont press keys. When i press keys, you see that green line is jumping accros.

http://s29.postimg.org/ezne7tgzq/image.jpg

 

How would you explain that?

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yes, that is quite interesting, isn't it. Also when you have it on, and join an empty room, you can actually see the synchronizing messages being send.

I am not sure what causes this. 

It is not a drop in frame rate (when your frame rate is low, your PC will wait with processing your request, resulting in a bigger ping)

It is also not that the server is overloaded, otherwise the presses and actions of other players should also show up. It is only your presses that increase the ping.

It can be 4 things: Upload, Processing by Server, Download, Processing by client

Processing by client: no because FPS is good

Processing by Server: server is not overloaded, it doesn't seem to queue outgoing messages (otherwise other peoples presses would have an impact) Maybe it can queue the incoming messages...?

Download:no, because other downloads don't have any impact

Upload: Maybe... 

 

You can also note that the new ping message is sent as soon as all ping messages are back. So if you have a high ping, the length of the points will become longer (and they will become lines).

 

USA synchronizing spots:

 

East Asia statistics (mind the big spike, and the red line, so East ASia servers are not so good =D):

 


 

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Most players won't understand what it means (they dont read the forum). You should make a guide ingame. :)

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well, when they complain in the forums, about lag, I can ask the to have a look at the stats and post what goes on :)


 

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Well,It.could.be.upload.speed.

I.am.still.amazed.by.this.

Gj.geert

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well, As for the peaks, I noticed that they seem to be exactly double your base ping. So it is indeed probably some queuing, or TCP/IP hand shaking that's going on...


 

Thanks, Geert.

Good Job :)

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Awesome feature!

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Can we get it in the standalone version ? (very nice work btw)

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Standalone always loads the latest version, no? It should be then ;)


 

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Right click is disable. (maybe it's personal problems ?) 

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Geert wrote:

The big green line means the ping to the room was higher than 500ms.

 

I'm more often in the green than anywhere else :(

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wow bananorpion, is this like all the time? or only at certain times of the day. Where are you from and on which cluster do you play (EU, USA or east Asia?)

 


 

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Yep, like I told on the chat, playing at home is always like this, with sometimes a few hours with no lag, at night. (We're basically 33 people on the same wifi, so during the night, fewer people are using the internet..)
But since I don't have any lags when I play at work, I know that's from my connection.

Still, that's weird, I play from France but everytime I log in, I'm sent to the US server.

 

EDIT : NEW HIGH SCORE (I put on skype just to see how high my ping would be.)

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Would it be possible to have the stats window a little bit more on the left, so as to see the score while it's displayed? Like it is now, the stats even cover a small part of the map, so you can't play with the stats on.

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I guess that would be possible.

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Really good job Geert, im impressed.
However consider making your own standalone version of this game (Curve Fever signed) and adding there an option to choose low quality becouse from what i can say most players dont like the graphic effects of item spawning and death.

I have a question. Why do I lag when an item spawns? And why when I lag, I cant do anything at first, then i can see myself dying, then I get lag window (or not) and after lag window im still dead, for the most time i just make a circle and kill myself.

This good work of yours push me to continue supporting you (buying premium) so keep it up!

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I dont get anything of this

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Banan, can you do 2 things for me, watch a game on EU server and watch a game on USA server and see what the difference is. And yes, I will put it more to the left (and not cover the chat and stuff like that ;) )


 

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this means what? as i can see, my ping is a little bit higher than it should be. am i wrong? how to fix it? cuz I'm experiencing a huge lags, unplayable in last 3mnths... need to play in low quality if i want to play with minimum issues.

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I just watched a game on US server, I can't see much difference, but there are more often "red", if I may say so, on the european server.

I took screens to illustrate, but despite the 100ms difference actually both servers pings are constantly going up and down between 100 and 1500. (Tried with 10mn between the two games, so that my connection is pretty much the same.)

EU : http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/15/1397085148-eu.jpg

US : http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/15/1397085148-us.jpg

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Hi Zli,

Go and play a game while the stats are open, see what it does then... Now it is hard to tell. We see that your ping with the reference server is 75ms, which is very ok, and it looks stable too. Maybe your problem is not in lag but in fps drops... 

Bananorpion, it looks like your internet at ome really is terrible ;) I mean the ping regularly gets higher. You sould have a look how you can make your personal internet connection more stable.


 

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Geert wrote:

Hi Zli,

Go and play a game while the stats are open, see what it does then... Now it is hard to tell. We see that your ping with the reference server is 75ms, which is very ok, and it looks stable too. Maybe your problem is not in lag but in fps drops... .

this is in room

ingame

 

idk, its rly unplayble. delays, lags, shaking... and i even instal new win cuz of this but there were no changes...

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Kudos to you geert for this!!!!

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Zli wrote:

Geert wrote:

Hi Zli,

Go and play a game while the stats are open, see what it does then... Now it is hard to tell. We see that your ping with the reference server is 75ms, which is very ok, and it looks stable too. Maybe your problem is not in lag but in fps drops... .

this is in room

ingame

 

idk, its rly unplayble. delays, lags, shaking... and i even instal new win cuz of this but there were no changes...

Hey,

Make sure you play always with the stats on, and when something happens make a screenshot. It looks like you shouldn't have any problem at all. If you want to make sure I understand, make a video of your lagging, with the stats on and post it in here.

Best regards,

Geert


 

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very nice geert! ty

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nice, yellow line is always at the top, red line ca at first line(from bottom)(always like this), green line is most time at the 4th line(with 8 players) or at the 2nd line(2 players(1vs1)), si what can i do? always green line over the red line and i lag like fuck

 

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hey, make a screenshot and post it :)


 

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http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=8xswmb&s=8#.U0cC7J3wDIU my ping was little bit higher at that moment because i had skype on, but still the red line is clear under the green line, and the green line is getting higher and lower sometimes

 

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Hi Nowdny

So you are from Eastern Germany right? For you the reference server is at 100ms away and the live server is 150ms away. However, we can't seethe full stats, vecause sometimes the red lines dissappear. You shrinked the image and thats why it is impossible to say anything about it. That's why this morning I made a new version where all the lines and dots are at least 2 high. That way no data should be lost to shrinking. So make on again please :)

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yes eastern germany, and now at the morning the green line is under the red line(WOW) but if i lag, it is always at the evening between 19:00 and 0:00. will send a new screenshot this evening. Do you have a idea why the server connection is at morning good and at evening bad?

 

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Geert wrote:

Hey,

Make sure you play always with the stats on, and when something happens make a screenshot. It looks like you shouldn't have any problem at all. If you want to make sure I understand, make a video of your lagging, with the stats on and post it in here.

Best regards,

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can u suggest me some recording program which wont affect performance while recording?

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Zli wrote:

Geert wrote:

Hey,

Make sure you play always with the stats on, and when something happens make a screenshot. It looks like you shouldn't have any problem at all. If you want to make sure I understand, make a video of your lagging, with the stats on and post it in here.

Best regards,

Geert

can u suggest me some recording program which wont affect performance while recording?

no, I can't maybe some players can? :)


 

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yes eastern germany, and now at the morning the green line is under the red line(WOW) but if i lag, it is always at the evening between 19:00 and 0:00. will send a new screenshot this evening. Do you have a idea why the server connection is at morning good and at evening bad?

No,  I don't have yet :) Let's wait for the screenshots, maybe you can give both morning and evening screenshots?

Best regards,

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I was in a game (right side of the pic) and then i went back to the main lobby (where all games are listen)

I also applied the nagle algoritm by setting the specific values in the registry to 1.

 

 

what is going on here?

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I was in a game (right side of the pic) and then i went back to the main lobby (where all games are listen)

I also applied the nagle algoritm by setting the specific values in the registry to 1.

 

 

what is going on here?

 

 

You mean that you disabled nagle's algorithm? Well, I am not sure why the ping to the lobby doubles. I am thinking that maybe it is a mistake in my implementation, making double connection to the same statistics server.


 

Yes, I disabled nagle's algoritm :)

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Hey Slophoenix,

How many PC's use your router? Make sure you are the only one connected! Disable all programs your running (also the ones on the background). And pray ;)

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what is this geert?

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your ping stats look great. Very stable.


 

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but why are the green and red line so far apart?

What is going on here ?

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Because the routing to the green servers from your place is much quicker than to the red servers. The green servers are now in Switzerland, the red in Ireland. They should be closer, but maybe the routing from your home provider, to one of the networks on which the data center is connected to, is suboptimal. For example, maybe it first goes to the USA, before going back to ireland. Or maybe it first goes to Turkey, before going to internet. It has to do with the itnernet structure.


 

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