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Credits and premium accounts

Dear players,

As of today we introduced credits it works easily and let's everybody get in touch with premium play. This is how it works.

Earning credits
Every game you play, you earn some credits.

What to do with credits

Credits allow you to buy nice stuff for your account. Like nice icons, cool powerups or your own unique color. Besides that, new players can try out a premium game easily, to see how that is, and don't need to beg to not be kicked in other games by premium hosts. Creating or playing in a premium game costs 100 credits, and in general you should easily be able to gain those 100 credits.

What about my friends who are premium, can I still play with them?

Yes, you can! Playing with a friend who is premium, or with people on one computer, where one has a premium account, costs you no credits! Thus if one of your friends buys a premium account, you can still all enjoy.

What's next?

In the future we will add more powerups that you can unlock, icons you can choose and game feautures you can play with, right now you can buy these awesome things:

 

 

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hm maybe its good maybe its badd..............................

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Nope.

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is there anyone out there who likes to pay for getting rank in prem-rooms?i dont like to exclude players like wilco or masturbinenantrieb chaos 2 win and others

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I aggre beacuse some idiots cheaters some real players are not able to play normal. not so fair by me

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I can't play with my friend which has a premium account (he has 1099 and I have 700) why??

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Please see http://curvefever.com/content/bugs-teamranks-and-friend-joining. I will try to fix this tonight.


 

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This game sucks because of the new things.

 

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Dit spel zuigt nu gewoon door dit nieuw idee

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Two things I can asure you at least 90% of the players don't like about this new update is:

 - the coin system - you explain it like nonpremiums get something from this, but the truth is they are just more crippled and forced to pay you, even worse some premium players that like to play this game with their non-premium friends are also punished (altho you said you will fix the last bit)

 - the team colours - I don't know why would you take a perfectly fine idea of dividing teams into hot - c0ol colours and just throw it out the window, why? it was so simple and good...

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So not a single free player will ever get higher than 1600 FFA/Team rank because then they would, no matter what, have to pay for every game? And since you don't get credits back from winning in premium game, you can only play once in every ~10 games a premium game with good players?

Way to go. I like the shop idea, if people want more -> pay. But you can't charge people for stuff that has always been free! Nobody will accept that, even though they all understand you have to make some money too. Remove the prices for playing games, only charge them for creating games and the in-shop stuff.

Oh and btw, I kill half of my team everytime now since I have no idea who is in my team or not....

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I have over 4000 games played (most in curvefever) and got for that only 1200 coins looool, good joke. very nice loyalty program . time to stop playing this game. BB

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No skurwiiii

 

bad update btw

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The new system is crap. I don't want to pay anything for playing this game with premium account users. If so, I'll stop playing, Bye.

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I am premium and I say this new coins system sucks. I play every day with my room mate in my premium rooms but today he cant because has no moneys... Maybe the start of the end of curvefever, this remmembers me of what happened with spotify... 

And the thing of the colours in the team games?... no comments. 

This update made me focus on school, €eert!

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This is 100% stupid.. So, my friend, who is ranked above 1600 can't play with me anymore, like we do very often on same computer? I am premium, i have paid for this game, and right now i feel cheated out of my money. This whole change will make games happen more rarely, much much less players, i can't play with my friends like we used to. The fun is taken out. Not to mention all the horrible bugs and lag we are having today. Do you guys even test your updates before you release them??

I understand that you want more players to pay for premium, you want to earn a little from this game, but this system is too expensive. Way to expensive for a small internet game most people come to waste half an hour here and there. No limit for rank to play for free with premium friend, cheaper premium/credits is what's needed right now.

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i dont like it. very very bad.

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really anoying new stuff.

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I can play only with non-premiums and low ranked? IF im right, i will stop playing...and most of the players will do same. Gj

Gj

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I guess geert wants us to stop playing this game,

well played

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wow get a life geert and search a job..

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This sucks.

In all honest, this new credit system will sooner or later turn the server into a ghost town. Every potential non-premium player will leave as soon as their credits are spent since there's no point in playing unranked games. This will also make it impossible for new players to get their ranks up unless they buy the premium membership or/and some credits. There aren't enough premium players at the moment to keep the servers well populated if the non-premiums will go. Though there's no point in buying premium now when the servers are gonna collapse.

That being said: Can I possibly get the money I spent on premium membership back if the servers run empty? It was approximately a month or two ago when I bought premium for one year. Am I able to make a complaint if needed? I must have some kind of warranty of fluent gameplay, right?

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Geert the latest update was probably the worst idea of your career. Finishing stroke of the original achtung die kurve. That is so sad because i loved this game so much. Have to stop playing now. Bye

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I mean you could atleast be fair and let people play the game for free, not harass us with your greed, because after all you got the game for free, the main things about this game always were that it was free and simple.

Yea sure, bring some coin system where you can glam your acc up and sh1t like that, but when a person clicks to play a game, and they are denied because of some bullsh1t coin system, ofc they will feel like beeing molested by your moneyhunger.

I know this world is all about the money and eventually all things sell their soul for profit, and this games soul WAS the thing that it was free and simple. Can you respect it, can you respect the idea of this game enough to just let the people play it... 

This may sound to you like a bunch of kids complaining to you about things they don't understand, but the thing is you are providing us a service, and you get money for it, so basically it doesn't matter why or how, if the majority (90%~in this case) of the community is unhappy with the new update, just fix the things people complain on (like pay to play a normal fuck1ing ranked game, or teamgame).

 

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ah that icons are shit that is only look like for kids. and 2 new pu-s are laggy.

Colours are not so bad but are not the best too. Are just usability. But it can be like other colours.

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All in all i like the idea of credits. Its a nice extra. But its maybe too expensive to join a premium game (especially teamgames).

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100 credits for one team game is just unfair (you're getting about 10 for winning...)

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This is fucking bullshit because i had more than 1057 team rank i had 1123 team rank before the update and you said Geert that if you play with a friend who has premium that you dont have to pay 100  coins each time  well that isn't true and i saw also that if you get an achievement you will get 100 coins also didn't get.

What i want to say is reset all the things with coins people will stop playing this game

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yeah do this fast before players stop playing. if that wont fix for 3 days im off too.

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3 days is too long because i dont have coins anymore 

 

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WTF MAN

I WASTE 100 coins to play a match and I only win 9 to 11. I never play Premium now, NEVER, it's a waste of coins, nobody will ever play Premium again, it's ridiculous. Seriously, open the game and look at all those non-empty Premium rooms.

 

It's not even worth being Premium if nobody wants to pay 100coins for your matches.

 

 

RIDICULOUS, even I'm a better game designer than that.

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Geert, ik krijg nog credits weet je wel:

http://curvefever.com/content/trailer-help

 

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Seriously, you are about to kill the game with the latest update. I have played it for a long time now and had much fun with it the way it was. My experience is, that without the coins system it was much easier for the non-premiums to join premium games.

In a short time noone will play this game anymore, because they are not patient enough to play 10 unranked games before they can join a premium-game again.

I wont play it anymore unless there will be changes and i suppose, that many players think the same way.

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maybe get 1 credit per already played games (Before the update)? 5 for won games?

 

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i dont like this new coin system too. it really sucks. i play this game for a year and this update is worst ever. i can not play in premium rooms anymore cause i dont have coins. WTF???? unless somethings change soon i will not play this game anymore. 

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Geert seriously check this:
http://curvefever.com/content/new-update-0
and the 3 votes for "best update ever" are for sure silvanas  + 2 of his accs ;)
Seriously, delete this stupid coin system for playing a game omg .. other update shit is ok.

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Geert wrote:

Dear players,

1. As of today we introduced credits it works easily and let's everybody get in touch with premium play. This is how it works.

2. Earning credits
Every game you play, you earn some credits.
You can earn more credits by unlocking achievements (quite a lot actually)

3. What to do with credits

Credits allow you to buy nice stuff for your account. Like nice icons, cool powerups or your own unique color. Besides that, new players can try out a premium game easily, to see how that is, and don't need to beg to not be kicked in other games by premium hosts. Creating or playing in a premium game costs 100 credits, and in general you should easily be able to gain those 100 credits.

4. What about my friends who are premium, can I still play with them?

Yes, you can! Playing with a friend who is premium, or with people on one computer, where one has a premium account, costs you no credits! Thus if one of your friends buys a premium account, you can still all enjoy.

What's next?

In the future we will add more powerups that you can unlock, icons you can choose and game feautures you can play with, right now you can buy these awesome things:

 

Hey Geert and the rest of the whole Developing team,

I'm not an active forum writer or reader, but as I play this game since the very beginning even if there wasn't an online-multiplayer-mode yet, I just feel obliged to say some words to that.

Most of the comments here just say that this update is shit and stuff, but they don't really give arguments to point out the main facts, so I'll try to be more accurate with that criticism. I just numbered your statements to directly comment to them and for an easier comprehension.

1. You say that with that credits everybody is able to get "in touch" with premium games from now on.  I'm fairly confused, because I didn't see that the "kick button" was removed in this latter update, so how do you guarantee players to join a premium game without the danger of being kicked again?

Of course there is the option of opening an own room then - very cool - if it didn't cost around 500 coins per game. What is the option then if you wanted to play more than just one-two games? Creating one after another new account to be able to play some premium game? Then there's no sense of playing ranked games for those users anymore, and the ranking list will extinct of non-premium-players.

Apart from that it's quite a joke that people haven't been in touch with premium games before. The first thing I told new players - obviously friends of mine - was only to play ranked premium games to gain rank and now there's just no difference in the conditions with this update - except for the fact that you have to pay credits to play - and that has nothing to do with fee-free browser game fun anymore - as you always proclaim it -  but with nothing than capitalism.

 

2. Those achievements just remind me of all those facebook games and else - everybody knows that getting achievements and stuff. Well it's quite a funny idea - no problem, but I guess you can gain those achievements just once and only get once some bonus for that, which is also totally low. Furthermore you don't really know how to get those achievements, it's not like there's a description next by. So that fun of achievement bonuses would just be an uninteresting gag.

 

3. I would totally be fine with it if that was a new option for Premium Accounts only - brings some new pep in the game for them -  and that's why the premiums spent money for this. It's just worthless for people who don't want to spend money and hence don't care about it as it costs.

And it's quite reasonable not to want to play all around the day just to collect some imaginary coins. Because the spending-winning rate in comparison to a game duration is just too time-devouring.

 

4. This one is a very funny one. It's yet nice from you to do it that way, but on the one hand I also can't remember that in this update the friendlist-limit has been removed or extended for non-premiums. So tell me how s.o. is supposed to be friends with his regular friends but also has to be friends with various premiums to play? This is probably going way over 5 friends - so this would be nothing but to friend and to unfriend people all the time - doesn't rly sound like fun. That's why on the other hand I suspect and can forecast that premium players will be stressed by always incoming requests from random people who want to play for free then and keep stressing them till they get kicked or whatever. This is probably not in your clients and your interest.

 

So in the end I'd like to add some words from myself :

At first I want to outline that this is criticism and no offense. I still thank you (and your team) that you were so enthusiastic and took the old achtungdiekurve game and designed it and created a way to play it online with people all over the world.

Nevertheless, there's a point where you have to set a border for your non-premium-clients. It's clear to me that we live ín a capitalistic world  - and that you'd like to make some money for your work investion - totally no problem, that's business. But there's a reason why some players don't have and don't want premium accounts. And it's not about the money itself but about principles. If I had wanted to buy a Premium Account, I would have done it like 1 year ago. When it was even cheaper and life long. But back then I couldn't imagine such a development in the monopolization for premium members as well. As I already mentioned it's your game and your business, but then improve the game for your clients - the premium members - but not for your non-clients who can't use any of this premium stuff either way. It's pretty bold to try to obtain more premium buyers in such a fishy and obvious way. That's why I hope that those other people won't feel forced to give up their principles and won't feel forced to buy a premium account to play some "fee-free" browser game as well. Better take a look in your cupboard, there're always some great old games to be played ;)!

I hope that this will be read and spread and that the curvefever team may have a thought about the mentioned points.

I'd really like to continue with this game as non-premium, and to represent the elite, but under those conditions the future looks uncertain.

So, if this should lead to an end for me, I'm glad to have gained 2 champion titles out of 2 played tournaments and that I'm one of I think 2 members that could even become a tournament champion without being premium.

 

Kind regards

 

chaos

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chaos for president !! :D

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I agree with chaos!!! :D

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word to chaos!

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Geert dont listen to chaos he is using genjutsu's and illusions

JOKE, HE IS STATING THE OBVIOUS, I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING YOU KNOW

I am just too lazy to write down a whole essay you know?

But yeah, yolo get money fack biitches and do what you gotta do, if you dont change your shiit i will hack everything and i will commit suicide afterwards

because like i said, yolo

bye

- Crazy boy who has had a crazy childhood and is capable of the thing he has mentioned above

p.s. i have so much swag that you wont even understand this message

 

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no that are no genjutsu´s anymore, his jutsus are much harder than genjutsus, but i have to agree with chaos...well, dont change a running system, an old saw says..well, curve wasnt perfect bevor that update, but nothing and nobody is perfect, in fact: curve was working. Now, after this update, it has more bugs (lol? arent updates made to fix bugs etc.?) and yeah, everything what chaos already mentioned. And i think the old design was better..(everything was better)

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This is really bad! Im premium and I dont think the money is the problem.. But I bought premium account just to make premium rooms that filled a lot of players quickly.. I Bought premium to start fast games!!! Now I open i premium room and nobody joins!! This is the worst udate everer.. Change it back!!!! Why should I pay for premium when nobody wants to play with me ? And dont tell me to add friends.. I alredy have Wife and kids and facebook.. I  just want to play fast curvefever games!!!!!

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THATS ALSO A BIG POINT! IF YOU CREATE A GAME IT TAKES HOURS TO FILL THE ROOM MAN HOLY SHIT

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That is what i tried to tell to everyone this game is boring without non premiums...

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This is very annoying people that will play in teams with a friend that don't have a premium can't play togheter now so everybody that is friend have to be do ffa and there the will be a team that is very annoying for the rest that play there

Worst update ever

 

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This game is now very shit the things that you can by are nice but don't let us by for play with a premium account that is just .........

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Er zit iets in het idee van Harry crane(om te wedden op wedstrijden en zo coins kunt verdienen). Hiermee breek ik ook niet het coin systeem af. Maar je spel is goed omdat het simpel is! Vergelijkbaar met pacman. Als je eerst een handleiding moet lezen hoe het spel werkt en je ziet dat je overal voor moet gaan betalen is het geen aantrekkelijk spel meer.

Voor goede spelers 1500+ verplicht je hun om primium te gaan. Dit betekend niet alleen als deze niet willen betalen dat je goede spelers wegjaagd, maar ook slechte mond op mond reclame(en hier is het spel met achtung populair mee geworden), minder inkomsten via reclame want je hebt minder spelers en beginende spelers hebben niets meer om naar op te kijken, want voor de primium games moet je betalen.

Ik snap dat je winst moet maken, maar je bent nog steeds niet beursgenoteerd hé. Steeds meer verdienen maar hetzelfde aanbieden? Het is niet dat je servers of werkkrachten duurder zijn geworden, dus veronderstel ik dat het puur voor de winst is. Deze update is gewoon op zo veel manieren een slechte zet.

Ik speel dit spel al zeer lang, denk dat er dan zelf alleen nog maar een offline versie van bestond waar we met 6man tijdens profwisseling een spelletje speelde. Je hebt al veel moois toegevoegd en bent er echt mee bezig. Mooi, houden zo, maar op een moment dat je 'zo groot' wordt moet je ook beginnen te luisteren naar je gebruikers.

Groeten van België

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It is clear to me that the new update is meant mostly to make the game less fun for non-premium players. I understand you want to make more profit out of the game and I have no right to be against that. However, I just want to say I think it's really a shame for us, non-premiums, especially with the prices for a premiumaccount being increased. You guys had a great thing going here, but you're turning corporate.

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