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We'll try to get as much fixed as we can tomorrow ;) I'm going to sleep now to have a fresh start tomorrow and get cracking on those bugs ;)

Thanks for all the support and bug reports!

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hardas 01 on 4 December, 2014 - 22:47
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Dlaczego Cant change rank

 

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hardas 01 on 4 December, 2014 - 22:48
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Nice idea, badly executed. No offence but it seems like not enough testing has been done, lots of flaws that came with this update are easily spotted by just about anyone.

 

 

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About the possible reset, would team rank be reset as well, or just ffa? I think it would be kind of exciting. 

I really don't like the unranked thing where you can't see the rank. I don't understand what was wrong with it before. Or, at the very least, allow us to put a rank+ limit. I don't understand why it was done in the first place. What problems prompted you to make this change? I personally think it was perfect the way it was.

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The whole hiding of ranks makes no sense, it's like going backwards in terms of updates instead of forwards. I don't wanna play with just anybody just because my game is unranked. It's hard to tell right now what is a glitch and what isn't since all those new things since to be very intentional (except for 1v1 ranks not updating, I guess). It's all become much less convenient than it was before. I second the poor testing, I thought there was a server for that?

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The 1v1 ranking was one of the most requested things ingame, so good job implementing it! I'm sure you will fix all the bugs and it will be a nice update after all. Please do the ffa rank reset so the ranks are really seperated.

Also, I agree with the following:

- Reset FFA rank but not the game counter/ percentage of win

- 1v1 ranks should start with 0 plays 0% win

- Scaling and big map should give same points in 1v1

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Shirvus totally right *-*

And also if you make a game for 3 people but then you play 1v1 it counts as FFA, not as 1v1 Q_Q

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How it seems, nobody likes the update that much. For example the thing with Cut is one Problem, because how you see nobody has that high rating aswell. Think about you would be Cut, and you've got the highest rank in Curve Fever [2]. Then they bring this new 1v1 update out, and your totally angry. You got your high rating down, and need to begin again. How is that fair? You should think about that again, because the high players do not really agree with this.

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I am in favour of resetting %win 1v1 ranking

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I fear for my FFA ranking now, but since it's a new ranking system I understand. And besides, I can get the ffa rank back pretty fast if I do my best. For others who are really high this will be really annoying though. I do hope team won't have to reset for everyone around...

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GameRich on 5 December, 2014 - 13:34

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this is good update but i dont get one thing. Why games played is showed on stats and ranks are not. Why is it so important how much someone playėed games really i dont think anyone cares it shouldnt be displayed at all since there exists 1x1 rank. Just show all ranks thats it no one cares about games ok i get about percentage even that is little bit useless in my mind. Trust me on this one no one cares about games only rank mean something explain mods if this will be fixed.

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I have a Quick question because I can't check since computer issue

im a USA player but played all the time in euro. Do my plays from euro transfer to USA or do I start over in plays at 0 on USA server? I'd actually be excited to start from 0 plays on USA server. And it makes sense too :) because if rank is different in servers then so should win percentage, plays, and other statistics

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I tried to play 1v1 but I've got no rank gain, despite I won, and also no play counted. Why so?

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Don't do that! I was working so hard on my FFA (not on this acc lol) and now because of few 1v1 players (really few, 1v1 is not very popular) you wanna destroy it. This is so annoying. Gimme back my money for premium acc then, I payed for those games and ranks. And why everyone cares about Cut? It's just one player, for example i don't play 1v1 at all, so there's no bacisc to reset my rank. People are really so jealous about his first place? That's pretty funny.

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Why is the ranking list only updated oncer per day now? I liked how it worked before... you could see your live position after each game. Now you have to wait a whole day to see your new position. I think that's too slow and static.

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I have three additions to this topic:

 

1. I agree with one of Haru's posts. Why are 1v1 games on the full map achieving more points than 1v1 games on scaled? This is yet again giving complete advantage to the green speed players. It should be the same ranking system no matter what map size in 1v1.

 

2. I think a rank reset in the FFA would be justified. The rankings are currently littered with high ranked 1v1 and speed players who will not be able to maintain that rank against top players. Maybe do a batched de-rank: what I mean by that is say everyone above 1800 is reset to 1800. Everyone from 1600-1800 reset to 1600 etc etc. to save everyone having to start from the complete beginning. I think this is fair. For notorious 1v1 names, I would move their rank straight over to 1v1 because that is how they earned it. It's pretty simple to look at the history of some players and see they only play 1v1. And after all, people only show interest in those at the top end of the rankings, so anyone above 1900 or 2000 with a 1v1 account should at least have their rank transferred to the other system. Anyone else who wants it should be able to send a request.

3.Another point of Haru's is the new daily ranking update system. I too disagree with this, is there a reasoning behind the change? If, for example, someone gets to No.1 in the rankings, it's only natural that they like to recognise they are on top (take a screenshot or whatever). Now if someone who isn't usually that high or has decided to try really hard to push for top finally gets there, they will have to leave their rank alone until the end of the day to see it on top. If they continue to play and lose it.....they will never be displayed at the top of the rankings. I think the live update is a better system personally.

And by the way, will this cause a huge lag spike at midnight every night as the system updates? Just curious. If the reason wasn't induced lags before then it certainly could be a problem now!

 

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Tranquility. on 5 December, 2014 - 16:54
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yes i agree with Shivers 
 

- Reset FFA rank but not the game counter/ percentage of win

- 1v1 ranks should start with 0 plays 0% win

- Scaling and big map should give same points in 1v1

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I have 1313 1v1 rank and I'm not on 1v1 ranking list. Why? I should be 37th

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Doctor Bunny wrote:

I have 1313 1v1 rank and I'm not on 1v1 ranking list. Why? I should be 37th

 

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Am I the only one who likes the new leaderboard? It's cool how it shows how many places you gained or lost in one day. You can also see how many places your friends went up or down so you can congratulate or make fun of them. If we go back to live rankings we won't get this cool statistic. And honestly do you check the rankings every second of the day? With the way the ranks work, it's much easier to tell who made It on the top 50 most recently and who had an excellent/horrible day on Curve Fever. I would just like to know when they update? Maybe a possible countdown?

Also it displays your ranking in the forum in terms of a percentage. Personally, I think place would be more accurate because many people have 1-4% and it's very vague on what their rank actually is. I do like though that if your in top 100 the place is revealed. That's a good idea. I just think percentages should be totally gone.

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In my opinion, whole window with stats could be a bit bigger, 1v1 could be on 1st place instead of 3 and also there is no space between "TEAM" and "1V1" so it looks a bit ugly :P


Here could be 1v1 instead of FFA if game is 1v1

Good work, i like the changes, except secret ranks in unranked :P

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good work m80s
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Incred wrote:

Am I the only one who likes the new leaderboard? It's cool how it shows how many places you gained or lost in one day. You can also see how many places your friends went up or down so you can congratulate or make fun of them. If we go back to live rankings we won't get this cool statistic. And honestly do you check the rankings every second of the day? With the way the ranks work, it's much easier to tell who made It on the top 50 most recently and who had an excellent/horrible day on Curve Fever. I would just like to know when they update? Maybe a possible countdown?

Also it displays your ranking in the forum in terms of a percentage. Personally, I think place would be more accurate because many people have 1-4% and it's very vague on what their rank actually is. I do like though that if your in top 100 the place is revealed. That's a good idea. I just think percentages should be totally gone.

I am happy you like it! We will also work a little bit more on the page, so you can more eaily find your friends in it. As for the forum, we decided to use percentages. This is because there are 200.000 EU players, 1.000 USA players and 60 Asia players at the moment. If we would decide to use  the highest position on any of the ladders, then it would always show Asia (1 game is enough to get in top 100), and it would give meaningless numbers for the EU players (I am position 142.872, oooh joy!). If we use ranks, it would put EU players in the spotlight (as it is more easy to have a high rank on EU, with the same skill level). That's why we decided to go with a percentage, making it fair, no matter on which server you rank.

I want to add though that we see something very interesting things now, and that is that on the forum, only elite players tend to come (among the best 3%). So the other 97% never joins our forums. Now that is food for thought...


 

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HeLiX WaVe wrote:

We are also in discussion about a rank reset. More on this will follow soon.

[...]but i dont like to play with players who have less than 800 rank because they leave games so often. Finally i can say "go" and "start" OMG!!

They leave the game more often because they simply pay less attention to the game result (win/loss)

It's not about results but they don't care about game at all, thats why they leave ;d I think, pros mostly don't care about results in unranked games too, but at least they play to have fun, so they not leaving like these 800ranks beginners. There was always rooms for players like them so this new solution is unnecessary

as to the forum... idk if % are better than just show current rank. There are many players so being on 324 position(pretty low) gives me 1% :P I liked to see player's rank in their posts

Or it could show like this: ffa eu top 1% (1791 rank)

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Hey Geert. Thanks for the reponse. I now understand what you are saying and I agree with you. It's fine as it is. Just one suggestion though, you should include people's percent and rank in the actual game. It doesn't have to be on the playercard but maybe it can be included somehwere. It doesn't have  You said yourself that only the top 5% talk on the forum. Well, that means many people don't know their percents which is not a good thing. Also, maybe a link to the leaderboard depending on what server you are. That'd be awesome and make the leaderboard even more accessible 

 

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Also, I was playing in the American server today and a few people were upset that you labeled it "usa leaderboard". They feel that you are disregarding their countries. This should be a very quick fix and I think zeroZshadow said he's on it. :D

 

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Why would I get a rank reset for no reason? " He can reach it again"  yeah sure everyone can do that, but i spent alot of time to reach 2500, I'm not going to play from begin again.. this is quite unfair and I think most of the players also think that. But why rank decrease and rank reset innocent 1v1 players? If you can't make a fair update, just let the game be as it is. 

 

If they reset your ffa, then they are so stupid.

1 vs 1 rank is also crazy, people leave after 3-0 then the game is to short ( 4 minutes ) and dont get points or coins.

Great if non premiums make so game and loose 100 coins for nothing.

 

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Some nice constructive post. I like community more :)

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This new 1vs1 system is only good for speed players. They get more points per game (because they play on normal field and not on a scaled one) and can rank up much faster. Speed 1vs1 > None 1vs1. Sad.

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Where are win% in 1v1 ?:c

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This new 1vs1 system is only good for speed players. They get more points per game (because they play on normal field and not on a scaled one) and can rank up much faster. Speed 1vs1 > None 1vs1. Sad.

True story. Didnt knew that scaled gives less rank but if it is true then gg.
scaled games without items requires alot skills same as speed games and should give same amount of rank

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Nawl on 6 December, 2014 - 15:17

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good point Hater

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How i can change what to be up, and what to be down in my profile? I see players have different:

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Well with the 1v1 games now actually implemented, shouldn't there be two new achievements for it as well (Playing 100 1v1 games and winning 100 1v1 games)? The achievements are there for team and ffa, but not for 1v1 yet.

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I tried to play 1v1 few times, but same result. I do not get rank increase, gold, and play counted.  Why?

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as i see it is everytime against a account player and the result was always 10-1, so i guess there is a simple reason, called: 4-minute-rule

a game has to be at least 4 minutes to mak eit count. if you don't get coins at the end of a game, you can be sure it was under 4 minutes.

 

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we just ajusted the 4 minute rule to a 3 minute rule for 1v1 games


 

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ty, this is good to here. because when i played 1vs1 games before, i had always the problem that i have to give last 2-3 rounds, to come over 4 minutes and get rank. was pretty anoing sometimes.

 

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Now it does work for me too. 

EDIT : I get rank increase, but I don't get the game counted and the % rate increased..Why ?

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Remuss on 9 December, 2014 - 18:31

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The ranking page and the ranks under your forum name are only updated once a day at 4 am

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